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	<title>Comments on: [process] More on fiction submissions, time issues</title>
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		<title>By: A satisfying weekend &#171; A Mingled Yarn</title>
		<link>http://www.jlake.com/2008/08/29/process-more-on-fiction-submissions-time-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>A satisfying weekend &#171; A Mingled Yarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] things - editing the Serpent novel, the &#8216;How to Think Sideways&#8216; course, making the Jay Lake &#8217;story a week&#8217; write/submit schedule (and of course I have two mad weeks of textile [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] things &#8211; editing the Serpent novel, the &#8216;How to Think Sideways&#8216; course, making the Jay Lake &#8217;story a week&#8217; write/submit schedule (and of course I have two mad weeks of textile [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tetar</title>
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		<dc:creator>tetar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve sent out 116 submissions so far this year, 33 are out right now, and I&#039;ve sold 5 so far.

Response times vary wildly and are lengthening generally.  

I try really hard to send at least two out for every one I get back but this is simply not always possible, as I flat run out of viable markets.  Usually I keep all my markets full at any given time.

To keep track I use both file cards and a flow chart.  I used also to use a 3-ring binder but sorting out three sets of errors every April got tedious.  

I find the markets for novels far more restricted and unfriendly than ever, and have only two out as we speak.  I may soon have a third to submit, but nowhere to send it in all likelihood.

I&#039;m nearly to the Simmons stage, frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sent out 116 submissions so far this year, 33 are out right now, and I&#8217;ve sold 5 so far.</p>
<p>Response times vary wildly and are lengthening generally.  </p>
<p>I try really hard to send at least two out for every one I get back but this is simply not always possible, as I flat run out of viable markets.  Usually I keep all my markets full at any given time.</p>
<p>To keep track I use both file cards and a flow chart.  I used also to use a 3-ring binder but sorting out three sets of errors every April got tedious.  </p>
<p>I find the markets for novels far more restricted and unfriendly than ever, and have only two out as we speak.  I may soon have a third to submit, but nowhere to send it in all likelihood.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m nearly to the Simmons stage, frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Felicity Shoulders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felicity Shoulders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t tried writersplanner, but I have both a spreadsheet and an account at &lt;a href=&quot;http://duotrope.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Duotrope&#039;s Digest&lt;/a&gt;. I like having the redundancy of 2 systems, and Duotrope, like the genre-specific &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.critique.org/users/critters/blackholes/sightdata.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Submitting to the Black Hole&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, compiles statistics from user-reported data. I love using Duotrope because it  shows me at a glance what stories I have where, how long they&#039;ve been out, and the average response time for the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried writersplanner, but I have both a spreadsheet and an account at <a href="http://duotrope.com/" rel="nofollow">Duotrope&#8217;s Digest</a>. I like having the redundancy of 2 systems, and Duotrope, like the genre-specific <a href="http://www.critique.org/users/critters/blackholes/sightdata.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Submitting to the Black Hole&#8221;</a>, compiles statistics from user-reported data. I love using Duotrope because it  shows me at a glance what stories I have where, how long they&#8217;ve been out, and the average response time for the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Markets, I&#039;m wondering just how lazy you&#039;d be willing to let us be?  In specific, how much to buy your market list off you?  ;-)

Yah yah I&#039;m just a smart-a tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Markets, I&#8217;m wondering just how lazy you&#8217;d be willing to let us be?  In specific, how much to buy your market list off you?  <img src='http://www.jlake.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yah yah I&#8217;m just a smart-a tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paraphrase:
  So don&#039;t do this.  It won&#039;t work.  I did it for years ;-)

  Don&#039;t do this either.  It will annoy them.  Or they might send you a contract.

*giggles*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paraphrase:<br />
  So don&#8217;t do this.  It won&#8217;t work.  I did it for years <img src='http://www.jlake.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>  Don&#8217;t do this either.  It will annoy them.  Or they might send you a contract.</p>
<p>*giggles*</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1 -- Mary Robinette, I appreciate the suggestion, but I&#039;d much rather build a database that matches my existing process (and historical dataset) than have to learn something new to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1 &#8212; Mary Robinette, I appreciate the suggestion, but I&#8217;d much rather build a database that matches my existing process (and historical dataset) than have to learn something new to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this, Jay. 

May I suggest http://writersplanner.com hosted by Kaolin Fire?  It totally rocks for submission tracking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this, Jay. </p>
<p>May I suggest <a href="http://writersplanner.com" rel="nofollow">http://writersplanner.com</a> hosted by Kaolin Fire?  It totally rocks for submission tracking.</p>
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