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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.jlake.com/2009/07/14/cancer-the-magical-land-of-health-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-4513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Joy.  Slowly it unfolds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Joy.  Slowly it unfolds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ach, Jay...  The deeper I dig into the health insurance nightmare, the crazier I get - and since what brings me to health insurance in the first place is mental health treatment, you can imagine this isn&#039;t a positive outcome.

I flat out had one provider tell me that the top folks in the field had begun to leave the rolls of the insurance providers because they were tired of arguing for treatments and procedures that were being automatically denied on round 1 and similar &#039;cost saving&#039; tactics... It is utter craziness.  When I was trying to get my gastric bypass surgery past the clerks at Aetna in 1998 I finally threatened to come in and cut my wrists on their desk to prove it was having a detrimental effect on my mental health; I never did get a phone call back but I did get an approval notice for the surgery.  I guess I want to say both hang in there and don&#039;t be afraid to make bold strokes in defense of yourself - when the system becomes Gilliam-esquely Brazilian it really does call for that level of response, sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ach, Jay&#8230;  The deeper I dig into the health insurance nightmare, the crazier I get &#8211; and since what brings me to health insurance in the first place is mental health treatment, you can imagine this isn&#8217;t a positive outcome.</p>
<p>I flat out had one provider tell me that the top folks in the field had begun to leave the rolls of the insurance providers because they were tired of arguing for treatments and procedures that were being automatically denied on round 1 and similar &#8216;cost saving&#8217; tactics&#8230; It is utter craziness.  When I was trying to get my gastric bypass surgery past the clerks at Aetna in 1998 I finally threatened to come in and cut my wrists on their desk to prove it was having a detrimental effect on my mental health; I never did get a phone call back but I did get an approval notice for the surgery.  I guess I want to say both hang in there and don&#8217;t be afraid to make bold strokes in defense of yourself &#8211; when the system becomes Gilliam-esquely Brazilian it really does call for that level of response, sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Grove @hownottowrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Grove @hownottowrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Health insurance reform isn’t just about access, it’s about sanity.&quot;

Until someone has been through something terrible like this, they just can&#039;t understand how true your statement really is... With my son&#039;s cancer, we went round and round with the insurance company on just how many MRIs he could have.  Thankfully, we have a great Children&#039;s Hospital and they took care of most of it, but it&#039;s so frustrating to deal with healing AND bureaucracy at the same time.

Hang in there, Jay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Health insurance reform isn’t just about access, it’s about sanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until someone has been through something terrible like this, they just can&#8217;t understand how true your statement really is&#8230; With my son&#8217;s cancer, we went round and round with the insurance company on just how many MRIs he could have.  Thankfully, we have a great Children&#8217;s Hospital and they took care of most of it, but it&#8217;s so frustrating to deal with healing AND bureaucracy at the same time.</p>
<p>Hang in there, Jay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lake: [cancer] The magical land of health insurance - Health Web Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jlake.com/2009/07/14/cancer-the-magical-land-of-health-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-4449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lake: [cancer] The magical land of health insurance - Health Web Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Volokh Conspiracy - Health Insurance and the Public Plan: Where (0)  1 Blog discussions:Google:Jay Lake: [cancer] The magical land of health insuranceby Jay[cancer] The magical land of health insurance. So let me start off by saying that my health [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to sanity. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever dealt with health care on the same scale as you, but I imagine anyone with insurance has had a glimpse into that wacky world. &quot;Insurance&quot; is anything but. Insurance is supposed to make us feel secure, but instead it compounds our anxiety. It&#039;s bad enough to be in a condition that causes us to enter the strange world of US health care. The dread increases with the anticipation of wrangling with insurance companies. I&#039;m glad you have an advocate in the system and I wish you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to sanity. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever dealt with health care on the same scale as you, but I imagine anyone with insurance has had a glimpse into that wacky world. &#8220;Insurance&#8221; is anything but. Insurance is supposed to make us feel secure, but instead it compounds our anxiety. It&#8217;s bad enough to be in a condition that causes us to enter the strange world of US health care. The dread increases with the anticipation of wrangling with insurance companies. I&#8217;m glad you have an advocate in the system and I wish you well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Buchheit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Buchheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there, done that. Several times with several carriers. When I broke my leg I required three surgeries (one to put the hardware in, one to remove the osmotic screw, the final one to take all the hardware out), and two trips to the emergency room. I had to fill out the same form five times. That form basically boiled down to &quot;Can this be covered or can we sue someone else&#039;s insurance.&quot; All for the same condition. For the one surgery we also had the insurance make this claim (they&#039;re not in the network) for the anesthesiologist, although we had to clear that one up from the insurance side (and yes, they were in network).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, done that. Several times with several carriers. When I broke my leg I required three surgeries (one to put the hardware in, one to remove the osmotic screw, the final one to take all the hardware out), and two trips to the emergency room. I had to fill out the same form five times. That form basically boiled down to &#8220;Can this be covered or can we sue someone else&#8217;s insurance.&#8221; All for the same condition. For the one surgery we also had the insurance make this claim (they&#8217;re not in the network) for the anesthesiologist, although we had to clear that one up from the insurance side (and yes, they were in network).</p>
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