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		<title>By: [publishing] Books as licenses – print and ebooks both &#124; jlake.com &#124; Drakz Free Online Service</title>
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		<dc:creator>[publishing] Books as licenses – print and ebooks both &#124; jlake.com &#124; Drakz Free Online Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: [publishing] Books as licenses – print and ebooks both &#124; jlake.com &#124; Drakz Free Online Service</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Publishing &#8211; internet publishing &#124; Point Article News Feed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publishing &#8211; internet publishing &#124; Point Article News Feed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [publishing] Books as licenses â print and ebooks both &#124; jlake.com8 Feb 2010 by Jay &#160;One thread of the ongoing ebook discussion on the Internet has been the perception of a lot of readers (including, possibly, reporters at Wired) that ebooks. &#8211; [ ] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -

Thanks for the perspective on DRM and restrictions. My own opinions pretty much parallel your with respect to the value proposition of DRM, for whatever that&#039;s worth.

Best,

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David -</p>
<p>Thanks for the perspective on DRM and restrictions. My own opinions pretty much parallel your with respect to the value proposition of DRM, for whatever that&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: David S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the ebook licenses is they try to impose additional restrictions on the reader (usually via DRM) that go way beyond those imposed by the normal copyright law that applies to print books.

Additional restrictions that prevent people doing things, like reselling the books and lending them to friends and family, that they are allowed to do with print books, and which readers put great value on. And then they try to charge as much, in some cases more, for such crippled ebooks as they do for print books! That&#039;s why people are so upset and largely why ebooks are perceived as worth less than print books. If ebooks were sold with licenses that were no more (and no less) restrictive than print books (i.e. the exact same license terms copyright law imposes on print books) the whole issue would be considerably easier (there would still be the issue of no warehousing costs, no printing costs and virtually no distribution costs for ebooks vs print books of course). 

If publishers want to impose such enhanced restrictions then they are free to do so (whether by technical means or simply a more restrictive license) but they have to understand that this makes the end product less valuable to the customers, it lowers it&#039;s utility, and the only way that might work is if it&#039;s sold at a lower price. 

Trying to charge the same price (or nearly the same price) for a product with more restrictions than the alternative just gives people an incentive to violate the terms of the more restrictive license, which is the last thing you want because that in turn just triggers an arms race, and then everyone loses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the ebook licenses is they try to impose additional restrictions on the reader (usually via DRM) that go way beyond those imposed by the normal copyright law that applies to print books.</p>
<p>Additional restrictions that prevent people doing things, like reselling the books and lending them to friends and family, that they are allowed to do with print books, and which readers put great value on. And then they try to charge as much, in some cases more, for such crippled ebooks as they do for print books! That&#8217;s why people are so upset and largely why ebooks are perceived as worth less than print books. If ebooks were sold with licenses that were no more (and no less) restrictive than print books (i.e. the exact same license terms copyright law imposes on print books) the whole issue would be considerably easier (there would still be the issue of no warehousing costs, no printing costs and virtually no distribution costs for ebooks vs print books of course). </p>
<p>If publishers want to impose such enhanced restrictions then they are free to do so (whether by technical means or simply a more restrictive license) but they have to understand that this makes the end product less valuable to the customers, it lowers it&#8217;s utility, and the only way that might work is if it&#8217;s sold at a lower price. </p>
<p>Trying to charge the same price (or nearly the same price) for a product with more restrictions than the alternative just gives people an incentive to violate the terms of the more restrictive license, which is the last thing you want because that in turn just triggers an arms race, and then everyone loses.</p>
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		<title>By: Where can I find free EBooks? &#124; Free Downloadable Ebooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where can I find free EBooks? &#124; Free Downloadable Ebooks</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CharlesP</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think few customers think about it this way, I think there is a bit of inherent mental math going on in a purchase of a book.  In my mind I&#039;m considering the ultimate cost to be comprised of the &quot;story&quot; aspect of it + any benefits of a given format.  So if I&#039;m buying a hardback I&#039;m considering some of that cost the &quot;early adopter&quot; cost, some of it for the durability of the medium, and some for the ability to pass it on to somebody else. I look at getting something in paperback as less durable, and not &quot;the new book&quot;, so generally worth less. Though for me, I often like the portability factor of a Mass Market Paperback and that is my preferred format for certain types of books. With eBooks (which I don&#039;t really purchase) there is the benefit of portability, but the large intrinsic value loss of the trade-able durable medium. There is still the basic value cost to be weighed for writing and editing and such.  

I think a movable price point is likely were things should/will end up.  My guess is Amazon&#039;s $9.99 price is about right for 90% of new books, and that it should gradually get down to the $1.99-2.99 range over a few years (see JA Konraths work on these prices)... of course that lower price point makes for an interesting problem. What works for JA there is that these are out of print back catalog books that the publisher has already gotten their cut on and no longer get a piece of the action.  In the future, one can see that the publishers will want to tie up SOME income on these back catalog books so they get part of that long tail income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think few customers think about it this way, I think there is a bit of inherent mental math going on in a purchase of a book.  In my mind I&#8217;m considering the ultimate cost to be comprised of the &#8220;story&#8221; aspect of it + any benefits of a given format.  So if I&#8217;m buying a hardback I&#8217;m considering some of that cost the &#8220;early adopter&#8221; cost, some of it for the durability of the medium, and some for the ability to pass it on to somebody else. I look at getting something in paperback as less durable, and not &#8220;the new book&#8221;, so generally worth less. Though for me, I often like the portability factor of a Mass Market Paperback and that is my preferred format for certain types of books. With eBooks (which I don&#8217;t really purchase) there is the benefit of portability, but the large intrinsic value loss of the trade-able durable medium. There is still the basic value cost to be weighed for writing and editing and such.  </p>
<p>I think a movable price point is likely were things should/will end up.  My guess is Amazon&#8217;s $9.99 price is about right for 90% of new books, and that it should gradually get down to the $1.99-2.99 range over a few years (see JA Konraths work on these prices)&#8230; of course that lower price point makes for an interesting problem. What works for JA there is that these are out of print back catalog books that the publisher has already gotten their cut on and no longer get a piece of the action.  In the future, one can see that the publishers will want to tie up SOME income on these back catalog books so they get part of that long tail income.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashavan -

I know I&#039;m being an idealist when I talk about licenses, but I think what I&#039;m doing is trying to reason my way back towards first principles here, and come forward again with a possibly new philosophy on publishing.  Ambitious? Yes. Likely to succeed? No.  But the questions are worth asking.  Your input continues to be very helpful.

Best,

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashavan -</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m being an idealist when I talk about licenses, but I think what I&#8217;m doing is trying to reason my way back towards first principles here, and come forward again with a possibly new philosophy on publishing.  Ambitious? Yes. Likely to succeed? No.  But the questions are worth asking.  Your input continues to be very helpful.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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