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		<title>By: How to Get Published? Don&#8217;t Ask Me &#124; Justine Larbalestier</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Get Published? Don&#8217;t Ask Me &#124; Justine Larbalestier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read this very sensible piece by Jay Lake, which solidified for me something I&#8217;ve been trying to say for awhile now, which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Breaking In (Part 2): Writing Novels &#171; The Undiscovered Author</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking In (Part 2): Writing Novels &#171; The Undiscovered Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how-tos.  And those are fine and good, for what they are.  But then there&#8217;s advice like this.  The gist of that link: by the time an established writer is, well, established - enough that he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Perhaps that’s the only real advice possibly? Be cautious, but experiment? Be determined, but be realistic?&lt;/em&gt;

You are spot on, sir.  The only canonical advice I give anymore is &quot;Write more.&quot;  Everything else is merely information, or possibly just data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Perhaps that’s the only real advice possibly? Be cautious, but experiment? Be determined, but be realistic?</em></p>
<p>You are spot on, sir.  The only canonical advice I give anymore is &#8220;Write more.&#8221;  Everything else is merely information, or possibly just data.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad R. Torgersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad R. Torgersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the movie sez...

&lt;blockquote&gt;CHARLES DE MAR: I’ve been going to this high school for seven and a half years. I’m no dummy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If anything seems apparent, it&#039;s that there are multiple roads to becoming Successful -- which is a whole other Oprah unto itself; the definition of that word -- and that everyone who has attained Success is very eager to share that wisdom with everyone else, because they&#039;ve more or less forged a path through the elephant grass and they think new authors should follow it.

Problem is, no path can be exactly followed.  It might lead somewhere for a time, but sooner or later we lose it, and suddenly we&#039;re standing in the middle of nowhere, and it&#039;s time to yell for help, or bust out the machete and begin hacking.

There are a select few authors I consider mentors -- people who have been doing this so damned long I trust some of their experience and wisdom to be near-transcendental.  These people tend to preach that while there are suggestions they can give, there is no Sure Way.  Authors must learn to think and act independently and experiment.

Lately I&#039;ve been ping-ponging around on the agent-vs-no-agent debate.  In the end I have concluded that having no agent versus having a bad agent, is preferable.  But passing up a good agent just to remain unagented -- out of fear the agent might screw me -- is probably an equally poor option.  Because clearly agents have worked out well for so many others.  Still, I shall remind myself to be very cautious, if and when I solicit an agent&#039;s services.

Perhaps that&#039;s the only real advice possibly?  Be cautious, but experiment?  Be determined, but be realistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the movie sez&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>CHARLES DE MAR: I’ve been going to this high school for seven and a half years. I’m no dummy.</p></blockquote>
<p>If anything seems apparent, it&#8217;s that there are multiple roads to becoming Successful &#8212; which is a whole other Oprah unto itself; the definition of that word &#8212; and that everyone who has attained Success is very eager to share that wisdom with everyone else, because they&#8217;ve more or less forged a path through the elephant grass and they think new authors should follow it.</p>
<p>Problem is, no path can be exactly followed.  It might lead somewhere for a time, but sooner or later we lose it, and suddenly we&#8217;re standing in the middle of nowhere, and it&#8217;s time to yell for help, or bust out the machete and begin hacking.</p>
<p>There are a select few authors I consider mentors &#8212; people who have been doing this so damned long I trust some of their experience and wisdom to be near-transcendental.  These people tend to preach that while there are suggestions they can give, there is no Sure Way.  Authors must learn to think and act independently and experiment.</p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve been ping-ponging around on the agent-vs-no-agent debate.  In the end I have concluded that having no agent versus having a bad agent, is preferable.  But passing up a good agent just to remain unagented &#8212; out of fear the agent might screw me &#8212; is probably an equally poor option.  Because clearly agents have worked out well for so many others.  Still, I shall remind myself to be very cautious, if and when I solicit an agent&#8217;s services.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s the only real advice possibly?  Be cautious, but experiment?  Be determined, but be realistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward G. Talbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward G. Talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I think you make a good point.  I enjoyed Stephen King&#039;s book on writing - he has a lot of great advice and examples.  But his advice on the process of getting an agent and getting published has a few problems.  Most notably he implies that an unknown author with a few &quot;pro&quot; periodical credits can get an agent by querying a partially written novel.  In his defense, he uses an example of someone who did just that in the late 1990&#039;s when he was writing the book.  I don&#039;t know how possible it was then, but it sure doesn&#039;t seem likely now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I think you make a good point.  I enjoyed Stephen King&#8217;s book on writing &#8211; he has a lot of great advice and examples.  But his advice on the process of getting an agent and getting published has a few problems.  Most notably he implies that an unknown author with a few &#8220;pro&#8221; periodical credits can get an agent by querying a partially written novel.  In his defense, he uses an example of someone who did just that in the late 1990&#8242;s when he was writing the book.  I don&#8217;t know how possible it was then, but it sure doesn&#8217;t seem likely now.</p>
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		<title>By: atsiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>atsiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice.  Now shut up and delete your blog.  You&#039;re advising me badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice.  Now shut up and delete your blog.  You&#8217;re advising me badly.</p>
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		<title>By: tetar</title>
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		<dc:creator>tetar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not follow me.  Find your own way. -- The Buddha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not follow me.  Find your own way. &#8212; The Buddha</p>
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		<title>By: Rick York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 65.  I volunteer at several places here in Portland.  May of the folks I work with are much younger than I.  From time to time one of them will ask me for advice on some aspect of his or her life.  Of course, they seem to assume that age has made me wiser.

Well, I learned long ago that there is no direct relationship between age and wisdom.  Unfortunately, many of my contemporaries don&#039;t get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 65.  I volunteer at several places here in Portland.  May of the folks I work with are much younger than I.  From time to time one of them will ask me for advice on some aspect of his or her life.  Of course, they seem to assume that age has made me wiser.</p>
<p>Well, I learned long ago that there is no direct relationship between age and wisdom.  Unfortunately, many of my contemporaries don&#8217;t get that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Uncle Jay, you don&#039;t get it. Everyone&#039;s a Philistine. 

(Sorry, I just couldn&#039;t resist.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Uncle Jay, you don&#8217;t get it. Everyone&#8217;s a Philistine. </p>
<p>(Sorry, I just couldn&#8217;t resist.)</p>
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		<title>By: Damián</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damián</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent. I will review your blogposts &quot;process&quot;. I think I&#039;ll find something interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent. I will review your blogposts &#8220;process&#8221;. I think I&#8217;ll find something interesting</p>
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