[links] Link salad ate haggis last night

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The New French Hacker-Artist Underground — (Snurched from Steve Buchheit.)

No Disrespect for the Meatball Hero — Mmm, food.

X-Ray Laser Turns Up the Heat to 3.6 Million Degrees — I love this line: The advancement represents the first time researchers have been able to produce such plasmas in a controlled way.

Bizarre skin disease Morgellons not infectious, CDC says

Europe, Data, and the ‘Right to Be Forgotten’

The Amazing Government Sting That Cost Google $500 Million (GOOG)

Study: Ocean Acidity Exceeds Natural Norms — Oops.

Five shots against global warming denialism

Who should recuse on Prop 8? — Jed Hartman is funny.

Why Evangelicals Don’t Like Mormons — Oddly, this article refers to Romney as a ‘Protestant’. Are Mormons considered Protestants? I never heard that.

‘Stop-Newt’ Republicans Confront Base Unwilling to Take Orders — Hahahah.

?otd: Have you ever eaten haggis?

Writing time yesterday: 1.75 hour (1.5 hours on Sunspin revisions, plus a bit of misc WRPA)
Body movement: 30 minute stationary bike ride
Hours slept: 6.5 (solid)
Weight: 226.6
Currently reading: Scourge of the Betrayer by Jeff Salyards

7 thoughts on “[links] Link salad ate haggis last night

  1. Michael says:

    All “Christians” who aren’t Catholic are considered Protestant as they are all (erroneously) presumed to descend from Luther’s break with the church.

    1. Jay says:

      Right. As I commented elsewhere, there are the Eastern Orthodox churches, and Copts, and Maronites, and all sorts of other non-Catholic Christian denominations that don’t have any doctrinal connection to Martin Luther’s dissent… It seems very weird to call *them* Protestants.

  2. Jaws says:

    I not only have eaten a haggis — I have sipped several fine single-malt whiskys during the meal, after standing at attention while the Queen’s Own Highlanders trooped the haggis in with swirling kilts and skirling bagpipes, while keeping a straight face for the entire ceremony.

    The fine scotch makes the haggis go down much more easily.

  3. Regarding Protestants, there are those (mostly out of ignorance) that classify Christianity into two separate divisions: “Catholic” and “Everything that’s not Catholic”. The name that’s typically given to the latter designation is “Protestant”, owing to the relationship between a large number of non-Catholic denominations and the history of Martin Luther’s “Protest”. But as you correctly point out, that’s ridiculous, because there are a number of Christian denominations that are neither Catholic nor in the tradition of Martin Luther’s Protestantism/Reformationism.

    Mormonism is one of those. While Mormonism arose at a time when Protestant denominations were proliferating like rabbits, it is not an outgrowth of any of those movements, as it is based on a wholly new set of theological principles (i.e. belief in the revelations of Joseph Smith and his subsequent restoration of a priesthood ministry that was lost following the death of the original 12 apostles). The central tenet of Catholocism is that divine authority has continued in an unbroken chain from the time of Christ through Peter and down to the modern Bishop of Rome, i.e. the Pope. The central tenet of mainline Protestantism is that something went wrong in the Catholic Church, requiring a need to reform or separate from that Church. I can’t really comment on the central tenets of other non-Catholic and non-Protestant Christian denominations… but the central tenet of Mormonism is that divine authority was lost sometime circa 100-ish AD (depending on how long you figure John, the youngest of the apostles, lived), and that everything after that was people making best-guesses as to what Jesus really meant, but none really having the full power of God’s authority.

    What I find most interesting, however, in an article that calls Mormons “Protestants” is the de facto assumption, then, that Mormons are “Christians”. The main argument of Evangelicals (which are, properly, a sub-branch of Protestantism) is that Mormons are not in fact Christian – nominally owing to a difference in theology regarding Trinitarian beliefs (that’s the excuse I see brought up most often, when the issue is pressed) but mostly because there appears to be a tradition of hating Mormons in evangelical (esp. Southern Baptist) churches, which at least partly goes back to early Mormonism’s role in the abolitionist movement. There are probably other reasons, too, which probably relate to things like the way early Mormons tended to build large, separate communities (which threatened existing political powers of the time), and so on…

  4. Cora says:

    Coming at the religion issue from a North German Protestant perspective (I was raised Lutheran), most people here would only count Lutherans and Anglicans and maybe the reformed churches as properly Protestant. And some of the more intensely religious Lutherans don’t like the reformed churches either. Even official forms don’t differentiate between different Protestant denominations, you have to check either Catholic or Protestant, which means Lutheran, or “confession-less”, i.e. does not belong to any church, or other. I think “other” has been split into Muslim, Jewish, etc… by now.

    Meanwhile a lot of what is considered Protestant in the US, e.g. Baptists, Methodists, Adventists, Pentecostals, etc… would not be considered Protestant here. I mentally file these denominations under “weird US churches I don’t quite get” (and Mormons are included in that category for me).

    Answer of the day: I had vegetarian haggis while visiting Scotland in 2009. I also had “Pinkel” a North German specialty that is quite similar to haggis plenty of times while growing up.

    1. Jay says:

      FWIW, most the American Protestant denominations are doctrinally descended from the Reformation, many of them by way of John Calvin. So while you may not label them Protestant, they are theologically connected to Lutherans.

      1. Cora says:

        I’m not disputing that they are theologically connected to the Lutherans, just that most actual Lutherans I know don’t see it that way. Because to someone used to Lutheran or Anglican or even Calvinist/reformed services as held in Europe, many American churches, even though nominally Protestant, seem very strange indeed.

        For example, my mother was extremely wary of the avid churchgoers she met in Mississippi in the late 1970s and made sure to keep me away from them, because she viewed these people, who were probably Baptists or something, as members of a cult. This is a woman who grew up in one of the more fringe groups of the Lutheran church in Germany and yet didn’t consider American self-identified Protestants as remotely connected to her own religion.

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